But you can come in and destroy what once was, make it too expensive for those that were there before, trash something that was once beautiful and introduce commercialism where there was once natural and pristine. It is probably too late for the Conway area. That's why I cannot bring myself to go there any more. You can have it now that it is trashed.
lOVE how Julie thinks a town the size of N. Conway could support a super WalMart, Hannafords, Market basket, Shaws, Grants, etc. No Julie, there are four or five grocery stores precisely because of the large number of tourists. If the town has grown to big for you, you can exercise your right to move. THere are smaller towns just up/down the road. Then you can come back to use the stores and YOU will be a tourist.
Hi Dave you missed Julie's point. The tourists didn't just come to NH to shop. They came here and are trying to make it like the arm pits of the universe they came from. Complete with high taxes, over crowding, unrealistic housing costs. Kind of like where they came from before they invaded here like some invasive plant species that in the end is destructive. They have succeeded very nicely in just that.
Some time ago I used to love going to the Conway area. Hiking around was a blast and the Inns were terrific. Scottish lion, Stonehearst, Near ledge. Quiet and classy. I had my first biplane ride in Conway at the Conway airport which became a Mall. Scottish Lion turned into a Pizza Joint and so on. Now there are Condo's every where and on every hill side. There is a "View tax." It is a shopping mecca destination complete with traffic jambs and over crowded Diana's bath. In my view Conway area is now a dump. Even the trails can be crowded. All of this raises taxes and property values because most people are lemmings following the crowd. Tourists are mostly a pain in the A@&. I had the opportunity to tell a "Developer" I met at Harley Jacks in Ossipee and inform him that to most of us who live here people like him "Developers" are the enemy. He took offense and started ticking off all the benefits of "Developing an area." I ticked off that many and more problems it causes that I do not have list here. Nothing positive came out of the exchange. Have not seen him since. To be honest I like Long Island at the end of north fork and Shelter Island NY anytime over Conway. It is wine country and they have greatly restricted development. It does have high taxes due to the liberal Dems but I only visit there. No Condo for me. I say the same for the Lake George/ Bolton landing area. Too bad we can't Undevdelop the area.
North Conway isn't the only community impacted by the increasing demand for housing. It's happening globally. Short sighted commentary about a subset of people impacting the housing market to groceries, just goes to show how "dug in" some people feel about things.
Now is your chance Julie. Let's have Biden and Pelosi restrict everyone to their home state to live, work, and play. At least China will be pleased. Take your head out of your, well you know. And take in that American flag. You do not believe in it.
Julie, another tirade about people “from away”. You sound like a broken record. This country is for all of us. You are also free to move anywhere and buy any property you can, maybe give it a thought.
A mutual co-existence is or perhaps should have been completely feasible for all. There really doesn’t need to be a “townspeople vs. you people” stance on any of this. A few bad rental homes that have not properly vetted their guests and appropriately set expectations for being good neighbors during their stays have truly soured the taste of many locals for all STRs. Unfortunate indeed.
My cleaner has built an entire business around STRs with most paying $50-75 per hour for a 3-4 hour cleaning. What does Marriott or Hilton pay their cleaning staff per hour? A quick answer is absolutely no where close to that. I think if you ask the actual people working WITH STR owners, they would substantiate this fact.
The “you people” property and rental taxes willingly accepted by the Town of Conway for decades have also funded local schools and town budgets for just as long.
Whether townspeople welcome it or not, Conway is a tourist community. Tourists support the local economy and the local businesses, shops and restaurants...are those tourists “you people” too? Does their visitation to Conway ultimately drive investment from the likes of Market Basket, WalMart, Hanneford’s and Shaw’s to increase the shopping options for all?
The home I purchased just a few years ago was on the market for almost one year at a shockingly affordable price for anyone including all local townspeople that had a passion to purchase it and apply a little elbow grease to make it their own. Yet for some amazing reason that is far beyond and completely unrelated to affordability, no local seized the opportunity to purchase it. I don’t know why, but the opportunity was there for all.
Again, this could work for all for the betterment of Conway, it’s residents, it’s part-time residents, and it’s tourists.
Perhaps there is still an opportunity to find a way.
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But you can come in and destroy what once was, make it too expensive for those that were there before, trash something that was once beautiful and introduce commercialism where there was once natural and pristine. It is probably too late for the Conway area. That's why I cannot bring myself to go there any more. You can have it now that it is trashed.
lOVE how Julie thinks a town the size of N. Conway could support a super WalMart, Hannafords, Market basket, Shaws, Grants, etc. No Julie, there are four or five grocery stores precisely because of the large number of tourists. If the town has grown to big for you, you can exercise your right to move. THere are smaller towns just up/down the road. Then you can come back to use the stores and YOU will be a tourist.
Hi Dave you missed Julie's point. The tourists didn't just come to NH to shop. They came here and are trying to make it like the arm pits of the universe they came from. Complete with high taxes, over crowding, unrealistic housing costs. Kind of like where they came from before they invaded here like some invasive plant species that in the end is destructive. They have succeeded very nicely in just that.
Some time ago I used to love going to the Conway area. Hiking around was a blast and the Inns were terrific. Scottish lion, Stonehearst, Near ledge. Quiet and classy. I had my first biplane ride in Conway at the Conway airport which became a Mall. Scottish Lion turned into a Pizza Joint and so on. Now there are Condo's every where and on every hill side. There is a "View tax." It is a shopping mecca destination complete with traffic jambs and over crowded Diana's bath. In my view Conway area is now a dump. Even the trails can be crowded. All of this raises taxes and property values because most people are lemmings following the crowd. Tourists are mostly a pain in the A@&. I had the opportunity to tell a "Developer" I met at Harley Jacks in Ossipee and inform him that to most of us who live here people like him "Developers" are the enemy. He took offense and started ticking off all the benefits of "Developing an area." I ticked off that many and more problems it causes that I do not have list here. Nothing positive came out of the exchange. Have not seen him since. To be honest I like Long Island at the end of north fork and Shelter Island NY anytime over Conway. It is wine country and they have greatly restricted development. It does have high taxes due to the liberal Dems but I only visit there. No Condo for me. I say the same for the Lake George/ Bolton landing area. Too bad we can't Undevdelop the area.
North Conway isn't the only community impacted by the increasing demand for housing. It's happening globally. Short sighted commentary about a subset of people impacting the housing market to groceries, just goes to show how "dug in" some people feel about things.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-home-price-growth-accelerated-in-january-11617109259
Now is your chance Julie. Let's have Biden and Pelosi restrict everyone to their home state to live, work, and play. At least China will be pleased. Take your head out of your, well you know. And take in that American flag. You do not believe in it.
Julie, another tirade about people “from away”. You sound like a broken record. This country is for all of us. You are also free to move anywhere and buy any property you can, maybe give it a thought.
A mutual co-existence is or perhaps should have been completely feasible for all. There really doesn’t need to be a “townspeople vs. you people” stance on any of this. A few bad rental homes that have not properly vetted their guests and appropriately set expectations for being good neighbors during their stays have truly soured the taste of many locals for all STRs. Unfortunate indeed.
My cleaner has built an entire business around STRs with most paying $50-75 per hour for a 3-4 hour cleaning. What does Marriott or Hilton pay their cleaning staff per hour? A quick answer is absolutely no where close to that. I think if you ask the actual people working WITH STR owners, they would substantiate this fact.
The “you people” property and rental taxes willingly accepted by the Town of Conway for decades have also funded local schools and town budgets for just as long.
Whether townspeople welcome it or not, Conway is a tourist community. Tourists support the local economy and the local businesses, shops and restaurants...are those tourists “you people” too? Does their visitation to Conway ultimately drive investment from the likes of Market Basket, WalMart, Hanneford’s and Shaw’s to increase the shopping options for all?
The home I purchased just a few years ago was on the market for almost one year at a shockingly affordable price for anyone including all local townspeople that had a passion to purchase it and apply a little elbow grease to make it their own. Yet for some amazing reason that is far beyond and completely unrelated to affordability, no local seized the opportunity to purchase it. I don’t know why, but the opportunity was there for all.
Again, this could work for all for the betterment of Conway, it’s residents, it’s part-time residents, and it’s tourists.
Perhaps there is still an opportunity to find a way.
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