To the editor:

I found William Marvel’s recent column “Gulag America” to be deeply offensive. His intimation that government interventions to reduce the spread of COVID-19 are tantamount to the abuses of Josef Stalin is absurd. The Soviet Gulag system was a sprawling complex of camps that incarcerated approximately 18 million prisoners.

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AbbieHoffmansGhost

RetVet, if you rely on proven falsehoods then any argument that you think you might have is just B.S.

RetVet

Sort of like what is happening with the plethora of information, otherwise known as substantial evidence about the Biden Family Business with Russia and China.

Just asking, because the media seems determined to bury the story at all cost.

Meanwhile, the FBI had a very real and personal laptop owned by Hunter. Kinda kills the Russian disinformation thing. And truly, Rudy Guiliano as a Russian asset? Please...

Budtron3030

Yes, I too resort to fallacious straw man arguments when I realize I've lost a debate on substantive, evidentiary grounds.

RetVet

David,

You wrote the following:

“Rioters have wreaked havoc in a number of cities.” True and they were BLM/ANTIFA Anarchists. They destroyed millions of dollars of property and local businesses.

“Vigilantes have shot and killed protesters marching under the banner of Black Lives Matter.” Really? Please list your facts and sourcing material. How many innocent bystanders and police were injured (and killed) by these so-called, “peaceful protestors”?

“President Donald Trump ordered chemical dispersants to be used on peaceful protesters at Lafayette Square.” Peaceful? You need to redefine your interruption of the word, “peaceful”. These were the same people burning a church, vandalizing private and public property and defacing our monuments.

“And most ominously, right wing militias sought to kidnap Gov. Whitmer of Michigan…” This is a completely debunked lie. In fact, it was a far left, extremist nut-case who concocted the plan.

So while you may be entitled to your feelings, you are not entitled to your own make-believe facts.

ttrain8

1.) A recent analysis by the AP of court proceedings stemming from arrests during protests found the vast majority of those arrested were not in fact 'left radicals'. To the contrary, FBI Director Wray just testified to Congress that extremists driven by white supremacist or anti-government ideologies have carried out most of the deadly attacks in the U.S. over recent years. That's consistent with annual terrorist threat reports over the past decade.

https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-race-and-ethnicity-suburbs-health-racial-injustice-7edf9027af1878283f3818d96c54f748

2.) High-profile examples of vigilantes killing BLM protestors include Kyle Rittenhouse in Kenosha and Jake Gardner in Omaha. There have been dozens of attacks with vehicles on protesters since May. The Armed Conflict Location and Event Data Project maintains the most comprehensive data set on protest violence, they've found 95% of demonstrations in the wake of George Floyd's murder have been peaceful.

3.) Major Adam DeMarco testified before Congress "that peaceful protesters were subjected to an “unprovoked escalation and excessive use of force” at Lafayette Square. The church's own bishop condemned the use of chemical dispersants by government forces.

https://theintercept.com/2020/07/28/dc-lafayette-square-protesters-congress-hearing/

4.) The claim that leftists were in fact responsible for the failed plot to kidnap Gov. Whitmer is an utter fabrication. It's completely debunked by every public statement made by law enforcement officials and prosecutors.

https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2020/10/plot-to-kidnap-michigan-gov-gretchen-whitmer-kill-tyrants-revealed-in-court-filing.html

I understand it's probably a defense mechanism to bend reality to better suit your worldview but it's really damaging to public discourse to regularly put those delusions to paper. 2020 is coming to a close, maybe we should try to collectively bury the era of "alternative facts"?

RetVet

ttrain,

Interesting use of sources sighted and references.

Next time try using non-biased sources and timely references that speak to the specific situation.

Also, let's not redefine terms such as "vigilante" to fit your narrative.

Nice try though.

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