Former President Barack Obama was the swan song for Marc Maron‘s podcast, My Conversation With Marc Maron, on Monday (October 13), and 44 talked about everything from his desire to leave the spotlight after the 2016 presidential election to his concerns about the messaging of the current generation of Democrats with the host.

In the hour-long conversation, Obama talked about what it was like for him to pass the torch to Donald Trump. “What was unusual for me was obviously, a lot of what I represented, a lot of what Michelle and I had tried to project, the values, our thinking about America, my successor seemed to represent the opposite… not seemed, did. And so, I think there was a lot of anger, a lot of sadness, some fear among a big chunk of the country.”

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